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Sunday Rant… More on Individualism v Collectivism

Another one of those [sodahead] comments that begged to be a blog post…

I was thinking this morning about just that [people too accepting of their loss of freedoms/rights]… but my mind automatically swung to the belief that as Americans, who we fundamentally ARE, surely the majority of us cannot -will not- allow the very foundation, and fundamental beliefs, of our country to be rewritten.

We are a relatively young country and unique in that we were founded on and for the establishment and preservation of democratic rights; that, where there would be government, citizens would play a very strong role in exactly *what* that government was. Now many seem to have forgotten that and want to hand those rights off to the government as if any group of people, with their own agendas, know better that any citizen what is best for us.

I agree with much zyriana said in a comment on one of my blogs in reference to… "it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." In a perfect world we would be able to rise up and sweep clean, not the government, but the people that have tried to harness it for their own ends.

Don’t get me wrong… I abhor the rights being covertly and overtly stripped from Americans; I abhor the way the reins have been taken from ‘we the people’ and are now firmly held by elected officials of both parties. And I do not believe it is something that has been limited to the last administration but rather something that goes back a lot further.

Having said that I have to acknowledge that, at this time, we have few choices. With all my heart, and love for this country, I do not believe becoming a collectivist society is the answer. It may sound all ‘new world’ and kumbaya to imagine a brighter world where we can all hold hands and help one another by sacrificing. But we would simply be sacrificing MORE rights and freedoms and giving more power to a government that cares for nothing more than gaining more power and silencing dissent. That is exactly what that kind of society would mean.

I am not a hard core fan of John McCain… I disagree with him on some issues important to me… but in looking at the bigger picture of what America fundamentally IS I see him as the only currently available genuine solution -because he falls more in line with what is intrinsically and historically American… less government, reduced spending, controlled taxation- and I have to be honest enough to admit that while he may not be *the* solution he is at least standing in the center. It’s not a matter of voting against Obama but rather the choice of voting what I think is ‘in defense’ of historic America.

We can look at history, recent and ancient, at societies that have failed… and collectivist societies fail every time and fail dramatically. As I said, America was and is an experiment in Democracy and to end that in some rash hope for change is, in my opinion, a big mistake.

[morning rant over... time for breakfast lunch!]

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10 Responses to “Sunday Rant… More on Individualism v Collectivism”


  1. Great Post. Thanks for your comment on my blog the other day. I think the link should be working now…I changed the Page to “My Vote” It shouldbe at thestoryofagirl.com

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  2. Excellent comment…I think too many Americans think there is some way where we’ll all live in some etopia here on earth. The “can’t we all just get along” line comes to mind. While that is a good goal, the reality is that it won’t ever happen. I think many people see Obama as some kind of “savior” who can create this peaceful existence. However, based upon what we know of him, he will only cause further division and economic problems for the US. How can one trust that any person, man or woman, who is constantly found out to be lying about their beliefs, and in the case of the government, policies can be one who can unite people? It’s a complete contradiction…those who support him will ultimately be disappointed in that their “savior” did not bring about the change they were hoping for.

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  3. I dont think God will bless this country any more with our Abortions and Gay marriages. Obama can only make matter so much worse. I predict he will not serve out his term, either resign, impeached, or assassinated. For his sake I hope he has the sense to resign.

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  4. Now that gas price are lower what a great time to add an $1.50 tax to them! I’m sure HE has thought of that already. Only a matter of time. People with their second mortgages who cant manage their money cause this socialism to tax us who can and pay for and tare care of the fools who caused this mess.

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  5. Earlier this morning I wrote a couble comments in favor of Obama. Did you remove them because you want to supress the views of people that oppose your own. Why do you not want to hear the other side of the argument.

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  6. @Richard:

    No! Actually I had just begun the process of moving the website to another domain when you posted those comments. I had exported all other messages but missed yours because of timing. But I’ve saved them (I get copies in email) and was going to copy them back once through with making changes. I’m actually glad you returned and invite you to re-post them or I can go ahead and copy them to the message you just left.

    And I don’t mind dissenting opinion at all as long as someone is civil… which you were. In fact I wanted to ‘debate’ with you on your opinion but, as I said, have been busy moving the domain.

    [I decided to not use the domain I bought months ago (impeachobama09) in favor of this one  fire-keepers.com) as more of a watchdog site. I respect the office of president and genuinely hope that I am VERY wrong about Obama. But in my small way I do plan to keep his feet, and that of his administration, to the fire.]

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    Richard Reply:

    Admin,

    Thank you for your response. I apologize for accusing you of deleting my comment.I’m glad to hear that you hope that you are wrong. I belive it shows good character, as well as faith in your country. If only there were more people who want only to keep he and his administrations feet to the fire, as opposed to just burning him alive. I enjoy reading about what people are opposed to, as I have found that it helps in the search for change. If Obama is to accomplish anything durring his presidency, he is going to need the support of his country.

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